Comments on: The Mistake of Silence… http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/ Protecting the Quality of a Fine Education Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:47:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lynn http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-7467 Lynn Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:40:49 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-7467 In response to #26 - clearly you are a rich entitled brat who has no idea about peon teachers who NEED to make a living in order to pay the mortgage, put food on the table, etc. They can't just leave their jobs because of an "abusive relationship".... that's the nature of education in the US. Administrators flee the classroom b/c they can't handle it and then they look down their noses at teachers for being stupid enough to stay and CARE about children...because they sure don't. Are you an administrator at a school? You sound like it. True, many teachers in time regret their choice because teaching is an abusive profession. And MANY teachers leave... what a great country we're creating here. Oh but wait, people at Hillel care more about Israel than the US. You say tutoring anyone? Oh yeah, that's a great decision. No benefits, no guarantee of hours or salary. Gee, why don't all the dumb teachers who love the kids listen to you!? Oh but wait - teachers are the only one's who really care about education at Hillel - and they are the ones who get harassed by parents, students, and administrators alike. It's interesting that you hit on a key point, and the biggest issue with Hillel in saying: "you got fired because the kids don’t like you back. that’s why their parents made you leave." Yes, the know-it-all parents (why don't they just fire all the teachers and administrators and and have the parents teach since they just want A's for all their ignorant babies anyhow?) ARE the problem - they harass administrators, they harass teachers - and they don't give a damn let alone respect anyone's professional background or experience, or the fact that teachers barely take home $30-40k a year after taxes. You get what you pay for, don't you? Finally #26 -- as your writing skills show, you are too lazy to even hit shift and use capital letters - so you are clearly too ignorant and lazy to understand why teachers stay and teach, even in the face of all the abuse. As for the teachers who were fired last year, yes they were done an incredible favor. My son is a student at Hillel this year, and I am thinking of pulling him out at the end of the semester, Jewish education or not. I'm tired of the chaos, the lies, the lack of genuine concern of administrators for their teachers and students. Hillel is not getting better... In response to #26 – clearly you are a rich entitled brat who has no idea about peon teachers who NEED to make a living in order to pay the mortgage, put food on the table, etc. They can’t just leave their jobs because of an “abusive relationship”…. that’s the nature of education in the US. Administrators flee the classroom b/c they can’t handle it and then they look down their noses at teachers for being stupid enough to stay and CARE about children…because they sure don’t. Are you an administrator at a school? You sound like it.

True, many teachers in time regret their choice because teaching is an abusive profession. And MANY teachers leave… what a great country we’re creating here. Oh but wait, people at Hillel care more about Israel than the US.

You say tutoring anyone? Oh yeah, that’s a great decision. No benefits, no guarantee of hours or salary. Gee, why don’t all the dumb teachers who love the kids listen to you!? Oh but wait – teachers are the only one’s who really care about education at Hillel – and they are the ones who get harassed by parents, students, and administrators alike.

It’s interesting that you hit on a key point, and the biggest issue with Hillel in saying:
“you got fired because the kids don’t like you back. that’s why their parents made you leave.”

Yes, the know-it-all parents (why don’t they just fire all the teachers and administrators and and have the parents teach since they just want A’s for all their ignorant babies anyhow?) ARE the problem – they harass administrators, they harass teachers – and they don’t give a damn let alone respect anyone’s professional background or experience, or the fact that teachers barely take home $30-40k a year after taxes. You get what you pay for, don’t you?

Finally #26 — as your writing skills show, you are too lazy to even hit shift and use capital letters – so you are clearly too ignorant and lazy to understand why teachers stay and teach, even in the face of all the abuse.

As for the teachers who were fired last year, yes they were done an incredible favor. My son is a student at Hillel this year, and I am thinking of pulling him out at the end of the semester, Jewish education or not. I’m tired of the chaos, the lies, the lack of genuine concern of administrators for their teachers and students. Hillel is not getting better…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4913 Anonymous Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:16:25 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4913 Actually many of your points are simply not true. Some of the teachers who got fired are very well loved. They make more money than you'd think. That's why they were cut. However, I do agree with you that those teachers have actually been done a favor. Actually many of your points are simply not true.

Some of the teachers who got fired are very well loved. They make more money than you’d think. That’s why they were cut.

However, I do agree with you that those teachers have actually been done a favor.

]]> By: alum from the 90s http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4912 alum from the 90s Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:53:08 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4912 teachers don't get paid a lot. in general. it's not specific to hillel - it's everywhere. unless you are a college president at a private university or something. anyway, why are they even bothering by staying anyway? i think i know why-because of comfort. let's stay in an abusive relationship because we don't want to turn away. then we should be surprised when people actually fire us. it's a dumb mindset. so here's my thought: - get a new job and stop saying you love the kids and that's why you're teaching. you got fired because the kids don't like you back. that's why their parents made you leave. - everyone is expendable. teachers are expendable and so are students. go to another school and you'll love the students just as much. i know it. - leave teaching altogether. sometimes you can still explore your passions without confining yourself to a ridiculous schedule of working from 7am until 7pm when it pays nothing. tutoring, anyone? i remember someone being attackedfor saying this last year but HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF and you might as well get out of that bad relationship before it's too late. don't come back to this blog shocked that you got the boot. you've been warned by people who are realists (and not optimists. thank you, rabbi feinerman, for instilling that value within me. i miss your teachings and i'm glad you found a better place in montreal). teachers don’t get paid a lot. in general. it’s not specific to hillel – it’s everywhere. unless you are a college president at a private university or something.

anyway, why are they even bothering by staying anyway? i think i know why-because of comfort. let’s stay in an abusive relationship because we don’t want to turn away. then we should be surprised when people actually fire us. it’s a dumb mindset.

so here’s my thought:
- get a new job and stop saying you love the kids and that’s why you’re teaching. you got fired because the kids don’t like you back. that’s why their parents made you leave.
- everyone is expendable. teachers are expendable and so are students. go to another school and you’ll love the students just as much. i know it.
- leave teaching altogether. sometimes you can still explore your passions without confining yourself to a ridiculous schedule of working from 7am until 7pm when it pays nothing. tutoring, anyone?

i remember someone being attackedfor saying this last year but HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF and you might as well get out of that bad relationship before it’s too late. don’t come back to this blog shocked that you got the boot. you’ve been warned by people who are realists (and not optimists. thank you, rabbi feinerman, for instilling that value within me. i miss your teachings and i’m glad you found a better place in montreal).

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4911 Anonymous Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:46:47 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4911 depends how much they get paid. depends how much they get paid.

]]> By: Observer http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4910 Observer Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:28:37 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4910 In the high school, i believe there may only be three teachers left from the days of the "old hillel". how safe are there jobs? In the high school, i believe there may only be three teachers left from the days of the “old hillel”.

how safe are there jobs?

]]> By: OBSERVER http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4875 OBSERVER Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:52:41 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4875 so they fired mrs jane and took Aboulafia instead Jane had one assistent but Aboulafia (isnt it a pita baker?) needs two or three. which one of them are going around with a notepad writing out misbihaved teacher. (diciplyn teachers????) more then this Mr M is principle now ??? why cant he be a teacher part time and a jewish life man part time (jewish life means he goes out with baloons when needed) then its getting better Mrs yemin who has no knowlege in computers become incharge of computer trainer (no one needs her services) why can"t she be doing computer helper volantirly in her spaer time? this is just 3 little tips on how to save money and ther is so many to come so they fired mrs jane and took Aboulafia instead
Jane had one assistent but Aboulafia (isnt it a pita baker?) needs two or three. which one of them are going around with a notepad writing out misbihaved teacher. (diciplyn teachers????)

more then this Mr M is principle now ??? why cant he be a teacher part time and a jewish life man part time (jewish life means he goes out with baloons when needed)

then its getting better Mrs yemin who has no knowlege in computers become incharge of computer trainer (no one needs her services)

why can”t she be doing computer helper volantirly in her spaer time?

this is just 3 little tips on how to save money

and ther is so many to come

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4758 Anonymous Wed, 07 May 2008 22:36:39 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4758 in all fairness, anyone can make stupid grammatical errors online...the best of us do it at times. in all fairness, anyone can make stupid grammatical errors online…the best of us do it at times.

]]> By: longtime observer http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4757 longtime observer Wed, 07 May 2008 21:56:59 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4757 to the anonymous person who wrote about anonymous people who write to Save Hillel, you must be from the administration. Our "old" English teachers know and knew the difference between there and their. Their students would not make such an error. Shame on you! to the anonymous person who wrote about anonymous people who write to Save Hillel, you must be from the administration. Our “old” English teachers know and knew the difference between there and their. Their students would not make such an error. Shame on you!

]]> By: longtime observer http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4756 longtime observer Wed, 07 May 2008 21:54:02 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4756 to the anonymous person that wrote about anonymous people and Jewish Values, you must be from the administration because our teachers have taught the kids the words their and there are not the same and cannot be interchanged. Shame on you. Spell check is good but it would not detect an error such as this...you've got to know the difference. to the anonymous person that wrote about anonymous people and Jewish Values, you must be from the administration because our teachers have taught the kids the words their and there are not the same and cannot be interchanged.

Shame on you. Spell check is good but it would not detect an error such as this…you’ve got to know the difference.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-4752 Anonymous Mon, 05 May 2008 21:30:56 +0000 http://www.savehillel.com/2008/04/the-mistake-of-silence/#comment-4752 I remember the days when Hillel had 26 to 27 per class in several sections per grade. Those were the days my friend... I remember the days when Hillel had 26 to 27 per class in several sections per grade. Those were the days my friend…

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